tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7805361.post1142675949174803076..comments2023-07-16T08:55:24.018+02:00Comments on S̈́̎͐ͮ̃̅ͧͯͣ̀ͬ̀̑ͩͥͤ͒̎͡҉̛͉̬̜̩͚̗͎̱̰͎̺̰͙͙̻̥͘͜u̴̴̸̥̤̯̮̘̩̓ͩͨ̽̊̂͢n̒ͮshine in my throat ░░░░░░░░░: From enchanting to the default cultivation of artifactsRosa Menkmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01733045840051946372noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7805361.post-78257537369715989292009-08-07T17:27:35.145+02:002009-08-07T17:27:35.145+02:00Hey t Davis
Thank you for your reaction and sorry ...Hey t Davis<br />Thank you for your reaction and sorry I respond only now, I am on a hectic tour and don't have all the access to internet that I need.<br />I am not sure what you mean with: "When there are system in place [image encoding/decoding] and you evoke them with change, you will cause a glitch." So I will leave that for now. To clarify though I would like to state that I don't think that the 'domestication of glitch' is a bad thing but I do have my doubts about it. The reason why I critique this domestication is because I think the many new glitch plugins, softwares and applications are not very transparent or open - they dont really give us new insights into our usual hard and softwares usage. <br /><br />I like to use the word 'wild' because to me it is a paradoxical analogy/metaphor/reference to nature. When you for instance think of the domestication of a cat, these animals will always be able to behave wild, but are trained to behave in a certain, normal way (of course you can never take out the wild completely, I think that fits since also the glitch is always a possibility even in glitch production software). <br /><br />I think <i>glitch art</i> and <i>glitch in general</i> are 2 different things and they should be defined independently. Then the 'natural' glitch sometimes becomes a model for a glitch art (when there is an emphasis on <i>design</i>). <br />Maybe ideal is not an ideal choice of words, but to me a glitch is when the system is broken open and so to me the 'natural' glitch is an ideal. But I guess this could be a personal opinion/preference.<br /><br />Thanks for the links!Rosa Menkmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01733045840051946372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7805361.post-33858137414595594592009-07-30T21:28:22.068+02:002009-07-30T21:28:22.068+02:00Great article, but I would argue that the domestic...Great article, but I would argue that the domestication of a glitch is a good thing + can continue to result in a <i>wild</i> output. When there are system in place [image encoding/decoding] and you evoke them with change, you will cause a glitch. As you develop a way of controlling the input that will be decoded, you not only learn about the system itself [transparency to the medium] but you learn how it can be exploited [err- utilized] for the creation of additional modes of visual expression + communication. <br /><br />I have my own hangups regarding what the definition of a glitch should be.. I am cautious to call the 'natural' occurring glitch an <i>ideal</i> one, thus placing it higher than its designed counterpart. Rather I prefer to focus on the end result, of which I believe the definition fades away, when employing the term 'glitch aesthetic' or 'glitch art' for both modes of creation.<br /><br />As you opened up the floor for glitch software suggestions, I have a few of my own which have been a work in process for my own thesis over the past year:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.text2image.org" rel="nofollow">text2image</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.ffd8.org/header_remix" rel="nofollow">header_remix</a><br /><br />Cheers!t.davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11553387670323794460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7805361.post-57940856378551734642009-07-23T22:18:06.970+02:002009-07-23T22:18:06.970+02:00yeayea about the animated gif: I was just using it...yeayea about the animated gif: I was just using it as a bumper because the video I wanted to use wouldn't upload (the upload speed in Denmark is not what i am used to : )<br /><br />I also think that there are many ways to 'disenchant' an artifact (in particular a glitch), but I wanted to stress this way of commodification/normalization in particular.Rosa Menkmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01733045840051946372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7805361.post-49928768674845204532009-07-23T07:56:39.691+02:002009-07-23T07:56:39.691+02:00I'm glad you liked the link! Like I said, it&#...I'm glad you liked the link! Like I said, it's something I'm still thinking about the project lot/it's not "finished".<br /><br />I understand you better when you phrase it like this: "taking agency in the process of breaking a flow of expectations". I agree that tools for creating formally equivalent glitches effectively domesticates the glitch. If the tool/technique is widespread, it loses its enchantment for everyone (for example, optical flow video compression artifacts/"datamosh"). If the tool is localized -- perhaps created by an artist for personal use -- then enchantment may be sacrificed by the artist in order to share it with an audience.<br /><br />I was simply adding to your conditions for disenchantment :) Besides tool creation, there is a more general possibility of simply understanding glitches better (making them more predictable). You don't necessarily need a tool to become disenchanted.<br /><br />I find your animated GIFs incredibly ironic for this reason. They're normally 2-4 frames of weird glitched visual content, but it's on an (incredibly predictable) loop :)Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969956393774965833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7805361.post-40289108973291516992009-07-23T00:00:23.336+02:002009-07-23T00:00:23.336+02:00Hey Kyle! I liked your link from the last blogpost...Hey Kyle! I liked your link from the last blogpost, I checked it this morning, but have to get a bit more attention to really 'grasp' it. - I will get back to that later. <br /><br />There is definitely a paradox in glitch art. I think this paradox lies within: 1. 'glitch as a formal happening' - this is when a technological flow unintentionally and unexpectedly breaks and when there is no agency for the user whatsoever. 2. 'glitch art' - where the artist has or takes (some form of) agency in the process of breaking a flow of expectations (of creator or viewer).<br /><br />This taking of agency can take place after the glitch, during the glitch (when the artist knows what to trigger) or during the entire glitch (when there is not really a flow broken, but a process running perfectly well).<br /><br />Anyway, with domestication of a glitch I meant the providing of a software tool by an artist or programmer (software art or generative art) for other users to create the (formally) same glitch. This is when a particular glitch becomes commodified and 'domesticated' -> then it has lost its 'wild, unpredictable and misunderstood side'. <br />Within this software, the glitch is supposed to happen this way, it has an expected behavior / pattern.Rosa Menkmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01733045840051946372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7805361.post-16522117456713871822009-07-22T22:37:05.246+02:002009-07-22T22:37:05.246+02:00"When an artifact or glitch becomes domestica..."When an artifact or glitch becomes domesticated, controlled by a tool or technology (a human craft) it loses its enchantment and becomes predictable."<br /><br />I think "enchantment" is less tied to domestication, and more directly to predictability. If you know a certain combination of programs always <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cafr/3327615277/" rel="nofollow">creates window trails</a>... knowing <i>how</i> this glitch can be recreated can turn it into an annoying bug. Or, if you take time to study a compressed file format and its decoder, you will eventually be able to predict a large number of glitches that will result from noisy/rearranged/missing data. In both of these cases, the glitch hasn't become "domesticated", just better understood.<br /><br />There's a kind of paradox here: if you love glitches, and want to share them, you are forced to understand them (you have to stop seeing it as a glitch in order to share it). You can't really sit around hoping for something to break. Even if you did, you would eventually tailor your actions so that they produce more glitches (you would develop a sort of intuitive understanding that guides your glitch-expectations).Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969956393774965833noreply@blogger.com